Interview with Eugene Kan, Managing Editor at Hypebeast

Posted on the March 13th, 2010 under Interview by dantranimal

Interview with Eugene Kan, Managing Editor at Hypebeast, the influential online fashion magazine. We talk about about comparing fashion to technology, trendsetters in Asia, and how rappers and China play a role in shaping what we wear.

While in Sillicon Valley, I was fortunate to meet a lot of people who had an impact on the technology we use today. Yet, there were other industries that also affect us on a daily basis, with people that shape it one way or another. Fashion was one industry I didn’t think I’d be afforded the opportunity to learn about.

That was until I came to Hong Kong. Through working at alivenotdead.com, I had the opportunity to meet and befriend Eugene Kan, managing editor at Hypebeast.com, the influential online fashion magazine. There isn’t a more visited site which keeps a good pulse on the world of urban culture and fashion. Almost every new product or interesting piece of news is curated and editorialized by the Hypebeast team, led by Eugene.

However, I decided to ask Eugene for an interview not only because of his important role at Hypebeast, but also because of his many interests outside the world of fashion. I’ll try not to be redundant since Eugene’s already been interviewed a few times (See 1, 2, 3, 4, 5). You can follow Eugene on his twitter.

DT:  When introduced to Hypebeast, my natural instinct was to compare it to what Techcrunch has done for the Internet industry, which was to server as a loudspeaker for what ever is important. Do you think that’s a fair comparison?

EK:  I think there are some parrallels to be drawn for sure. I am always weary of making comparisons that succesful aspects of one industry can be applied to the other when speaking about the fashion vs. IT industry. My reason being is that they represent some very different cultures. Both are progressive in the sense of technology versus trend, but the foundation behind this is quite different. Being cool, branding or however you want to frame it, it’s the essence of fashion while tech seems to have a more utilitarian role in society that is well along the lines of creating a better world (or has the greater potential anyways).

DT:  Hypebeast has become the first source for many product launches and fashion related news. Can you give us a history on how Hypebeast was able to develop that kind of relationship with brands?

EK:  From the very get go, Hypebeast never really had to develop any pertinent relationships with brands. It was essentially an aggregator of news found from all over the place, whether it be releases at stores or fodder posted on forums. Even in this day in age, 1 to 1 contact with a brand isn’t necessary and you don’t have to base your success on this. But as you grow, inevitably these relationships will develop. Probably not the answer you were wanting but it really is just a matter of Hypebeast becoming more and more visible and from there people reach out.

Of course, often at times this may come on the back of incorrect postings but that’s often part of the new aspect of blogging as a media platform. I don’t necessarily agree cause you forgo quality for speed, but it is what it is. However, PR could learn to benefit from making things MUCH more efficient.

DT:  Hypebeast’s Alexa ranking is around 4,000 and it has over 24,000 fans on Facebook. What has Hypebeast done right in terms of increasing viewership and establishing a brand?

EK:  At the end of 2009, we took a more active stance in our social media, that meant updating more frequently, making better use of it. It’s been pretty succesful thus far as we’ve been able to add a decent amount of clicks through Facebook (more succesful than Twitter). I suspect that Twitter hasn’t been as strong because most people are checking from their phone while Facebook is group/fan page checking which may be done more via a desktop/laptop. I’m not too sure. But having said that, I guess Hypebeast as a brand comes down to our content and what we put out. We really want to be more than a blog, I’m still somewhat embarrassed to call myself a blogger and while it’s fun to joke and call myself one, I’d rather be an “editor” haha.

DT:  In one of your previous interviews, you said you decide on what becomes features based on what your target audience wants to see and what you personally like. How would you describe your average Hypebeast reader? Does your personal taste ever clash with what your demographic wants to see or vice-versa?

EK:  Haha… I can’t really say that i know who the target audience of Hypebeast is. In reality, HB is a shit-mix of A LOT of things and perhaps the reason it has become so big and well-trafficed is due to its diversity and expansiveness. Although one thing I can agree on is that one of our core demographics is the United States. By virtue of being located in Hong Kong, there’s a definite disconnection at times. For better or worse, the Internet has created a playing field where this aspect isn’t necessarily a downfall to not be among your core demographic. You may not have the most authentic voice but there are enough outlets to become educated on a lot of things these days and to pursue your interests.

I wouldn’t say that my personal taste clashes with that of our viewer, but I can see some of the stuff I really appreciate fall on deaf ears. That’s not a big deal, in some ways I don’t mind the fact that something I’m really digging (for example White Mountaineering 2009 fall/winter haha) isn’t appreciated by most of our readers. My job is to create content that I feel is a mixture of what our readers will like as well as what’s supposed to be the next shit. Feedback isn’t really all that important in my eyes, I guess my feedback loop is just by keeping my eyes and ears open on what things are becoming popular. But often at times, the ability to justify your decisions and actions, that ultimately is more important than what your viewers want.

DT:  From our conversations, it seems like you’ll easily be as happy writing editorials for a tech blog as for Hypebeast. What tech product has been getting you excited?

EK:  I don’t think that’s necessarily true haha. I think my interest in technology stems more from the fact that i want to see where we progress on a macroscopic level. Since tech is a big part of our lives, it just so happens that I like to pay attention to it. I just as much like to follow global economic trends and what not. But I think my interest is mostly on a societal level. I like to see each aspect intertwine to see how and why it affects society the way it does.

There aren’t really a lot of tech products that get me interested… probably cause I feel that I know exactly what I want in my life. I think for some people, the notion of new technology is so exciting cause it seemingly fills a hole in their lives that they never knew existed. For me personally, I try not to think that way so much. I try to come to terms with what are the tools before me and adapt myself and my workflow accordingly. Shit like the iPad or just readers in general aren’t exciting to me, that is not until they can come and replace magazines in its truest form. I know military-grade flexible LCDs are either available or being developed. Imagine that shit, something that can actually be thrown into your bag without any worry of breaking it… rolling it up, beating it up etc. That to me is a very realisitc goal for e-readers so until it gets there, I won’t be partaking in any of that nonsense.

If I really had to pick one, I’m interested to see how quickly Cloud computing develops. Ideally, I’d like to have the most seamless experience, computer to computer, anywhere in the world. Each person has their own personal set-up and regime that should work most efficiently to them, let’s replicate this experience for everybody. I can’t wait for Google or MS to develop Cloud-based operating systems which present everything together in neat, clean package… let’s hope the Internet’s infrastructure can withstand this haha.

DT:  We’re doing this interview on Google Wave since it seems to be a middle ground between e-mail and instant messaging. It doesn’t seem to have reached it’s expected adoption. What do you think of it so far?

EK:  I personally forced myself to learn how to use Google Wave and to mess with it as much as possible. I feel that early adoption has its benefit in the sense that you can learn things at a slower and more gradual pace rather than play catch-up. I instantly recognized its potential but unless they iron out even the most minor of bugs, it’s still a good idea. I’d rather not recite shit I read across the web of how to make it better, but I do think that it’s a cleaner and more concise way of building ideas and concepts.

DT:  Since the music industry is in shambles, most musicians, especially hip-hop artists, are looking at other avenues to generate income off of their brand. Fashion seems to be one of the steps in that direction. What’s your take on this?

EK:  I think few people have had the ability to transfer seamlessly from one arena to another and replicate their success to the same degree. It takes an incredible attitude and a great open mind to make things work. In reality you’re often going from something you know very well to something you’re less familiar with. I’m sure you’re familiar with that statistic that you need to practice something like 10,000 hours… there are only 24 hours in a day homie. Only way to make up a lack of knowledge is with the right attitude and the desire to soak shit up like a sponge. Time constraints, egos, whatever it may be can often be detrimental. But alas, there exists a large flock of sheep out there and for celebrities, it doesn’t mean they can’t be succesful selling other products like fashion, it’s whether they gain a level of respectability amongst the rest of the industry… but that’s not really all that important if cashing checks is the goal.

I’ll be adamant about this, the likes of Kanye West and Pharrell Williams ushered in a new wave of fashion that brought an unforeseen level of diversity. Only somebody of Kanye or Pharrell’s status could make it acceptable to travel seamlessly between high and street fashion and spawn a new generation of people interested in fashion. Who else has done a look books and collaborations with Bape as well as work with a fashion house like Louis Vuitton?

DT:  You’ve been to a number of different cities in the world, especially in Asia. What country’s been a trendsetter in terms of fashion and what makes them so?

EK:  I actually haven’t traveled nearly as much as I had wanted too nor have I spent as much time in the city’s I’ve visited. The easy answer I guess is Tokyo, but I would feel from my general understanding that Scandanavia would rival Japan for legitimate applicable fashion. Sure you can see some fucked up “next level” shit in Tokyo, but is it really something that is realistic and can be worn in a few years let alone in half a year? I would generally say no. But the Japanese also have a great respect for their craft. The commercial aspect of fashion is not often at the forefront of one’s motives for creating fashion.

Aside from a strong creative outlook in fashion, Japan’s garment production is second to none so that really helps push the agenda. I’m not really sure why Japan’s selective parts of culture are so well developed. I do have a feeling that their regimented life offers few areas of expression. And those outlets that are available, you better bet your sweet ass they’re going to use it to their fullest. So maybe that means that they get a little more drunk than they should, watch a little more rape-porn (ok this is a bit ignorant) than they should but it also means they really do a great job when it comes to making clothes.

DT:  With China’s growing importance in almost every industry worth mentioning, where do you think it’s role is and will be in the world of fashion?

EK:  I have some differing opinions on this. At the root of all this, I see two big issues when it comes to China and developing its own culture (not to say that the current trends won’t rectify the situation). With the limitations with censorship and the inability to consume and be subjected to new cultures and experiences, I think this slows down the amount of inspiration derived. I firmly believe education is the foundation of inspiration. No fucking way anybody can know everything about everything. Meaning if you keep an open mind to soak up information, you’re bound to find something of interest that you’ll look to pursue. While the lack of worldly experience is one thing, there is obviously a growing group of Chinese going abroad. So potentially, they have the chance to return to China with a more balanced outlook which embodies both their country of birth AND the culture of their schooling country. But how many are going abroad in the creative realm versus the tech and other professional industries? Lest we forget, not many Chinese parents push their kids towards a job that relies on creativity.

Secondly, the current trend in fashion as a manifestation of the country’s own culture is gaudy, conspicious fashion that tells those around them… look I have casssssssssh money. This has in itself created its own aesthetic. I would say that China’s own approach to flaunting wealth is a larger issue than fashion, meaning unless culture changes, we’re left with sensible products left on the shelves while highly branded products get bought up with ridiculous fever.

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